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	<description>A blog for the Connectivism Course 2008</description>
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		<title>Comment on Blog&#8217;s gotta move by Pavlosius</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/10/10/blogs-gotta-move/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>У данной статьи неформальный, четко выраженный информативный стиль, большое спасибо Вам!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Trying a Mind42 Mind Map by Websites tagged "mindmap" on Postsaver</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/09/11/trying-a-mind42-mind-map/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Websites tagged "mindmap" on Postsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Freebie Alert for Writers saved by swkjra2009-07-18 - Trying a Mind42 Mind Map saved by pforret2009-07-13 - Idea generation with mind mapping saved by Pimpinagain2009-07-13 - Get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Freebie Alert for Writers saved by swkjra2009-07-18 &#8211; Trying a Mind42 Mind Map saved by pforret2009-07-13 &#8211; Idea generation with mind mapping saved by Pimpinagain2009-07-13 &#8211; Get [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networks of Dead People by CCK08: Shh. I&#8217;m listening&#8230;slowly &#171; Thinking Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/09/25/networks-of-dead-people/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>CCK08: Shh. I&#8217;m listening&#8230;slowly &#171; Thinking Out Loud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] part of what I have been able to contribute to past ventures. (Yes, &#8220;listening&#8221; to dead people included.) After a &#8220;long&#8221; while in digital terms, discussing what I have heard, or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] part of what I have been able to contribute to past ventures. (Yes, &#8220;listening&#8221; to dead people included.) After a &#8220;long&#8221; while in digital terms, discussing what I have heard, or [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networks of Dead People by CCK08: Week 10 Wild Flower Garden &#171; Clyde Street</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/09/25/networks-of-dead-people/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>CCK08: Week 10 Wild Flower Garden &#171; Clyde Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my reading. I had thought that connectivism is open to its own revision. Three thinkers from my network of dead people, Marx (withering away of the state), Weber (science open to on-going change) and Kelly (there are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my reading. I had thought that connectivism is open to its own revision. Three thinkers from my network of dead people, Marx (withering away of the state), Weber (science open to on-going change) and Kelly (there are [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Concept Map: What&#8217;s New in Connectivism by About assessment criteria &#124; Heli on Connectivism</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/09/19/concept-map-whats-new-in-connectivism/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>About assessment criteria &#124; Heli on Connectivism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how about learning? I do not have any feeling of proceeding, no yet. I like Lisa Lane&#8217;s picture 18.9. where the new part is &#8220;web-based activity makes the most sense through the connectivist [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] how about learning? I do not have any feeling of proceeding, no yet. I like Lisa Lane&#8217;s picture 18.9. where the new part is &#8220;web-based activity makes the most sense through the connectivist [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dogs Group, Cats Network by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/10/07/dogs-group-cats-network/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pat!

I almost didn&#039;t see your comment since I moved this blog over to http://lisahistory.wordpress.com -- glad I caught it!

Cats learn very well, but like many of our students they don&#039;t necessarily learn what we want to teach them. Dogs learn beautifully from humans, and most will try to learn what you teach, because they so want to please (built-in networking). 

Cat people will tell you cats learn to open screens, dial phones, catch flies, let their displeasure be known, and trash an inbox full of paper. And I have indeed seen them teach such things to other cats in the household. Coming into the kitchen at night and clicking on the light will often reveal cats teaching each other all sorts of things you don&#039;t want them to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pat!</p>
<p>I almost didn&#8217;t see your comment since I moved this blog over to <a href="http://lisahistory.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://lisahistory.wordpress.com</a> &#8212; glad I caught it!</p>
<p>Cats learn very well, but like many of our students they don&#8217;t necessarily learn what we want to teach them. Dogs learn beautifully from humans, and most will try to learn what you teach, because they so want to please (built-in networking). </p>
<p>Cat people will tell you cats learn to open screens, dial phones, catch flies, let their displeasure be known, and trash an inbox full of paper. And I have indeed seen them teach such things to other cats in the household. Coming into the kitchen at night and clicking on the light will often reveal cats teaching each other all sorts of things you don&#8217;t want them to know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dogs Group, Cats Network by Pat Parslow</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/10/07/dogs-group-cats-network/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Parslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, admittedly I am more of a dog person than a cat person (in that I have a preference for the company of dogs), but this analogy immediately made me think networks can&#039;t be good!  But I have an alternative interpretation...

Dogs are technology enabled networkers.  The technology in question is peemails left on lampposts and trees. They form local groups (in the non-derogative (or is that non-dogative?) sense) which work together and are even accepting of outsiders (in the domesticated context, at least).

Cats, on the other hand, form groups-of-one, seldom accepting others, even if they live in close proximity.  Pretty much everything is too much trouble for them unless they get a direct benefit from it, and they do little to maintain connections, even with the people who supply them with food.  To my mind, they also seldom seem to learn - whereas dogs will teach each other things.  Perhaps I just don&#039;t know enough cats sufficiently well?

In many ways cats remind me of some academics I have known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, admittedly I am more of a dog person than a cat person (in that I have a preference for the company of dogs), but this analogy immediately made me think networks can&#8217;t be good!  But I have an alternative interpretation&#8230;</p>
<p>Dogs are technology enabled networkers.  The technology in question is peemails left on lampposts and trees. They form local groups (in the non-derogative (or is that non-dogative?) sense) which work together and are even accepting of outsiders (in the domesticated context, at least).</p>
<p>Cats, on the other hand, form groups-of-one, seldom accepting others, even if they live in close proximity.  Pretty much everything is too much trouble for them unless they get a direct benefit from it, and they do little to maintain connections, even with the people who supply them with food.  To my mind, they also seldom seem to learn &#8211; whereas dogs will teach each other things.  Perhaps I just don&#8217;t know enough cats sufficiently well?</p>
<p>In many ways cats remind me of some academics I have known.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networks of Dead People by CCK08: Coming to Know &#171; Clyde Street</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/09/25/networks-of-dead-people/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>CCK08: Coming to Know &#171; Clyde Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] summary triggered my memories of Olive Banks and Phillida Salmon (and recalled Lisa&#8217;s post about Networks of Dead People). These were wayfinders for me and helped me make sense of my [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dogs Group, Cats Network by jim2</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying desperately to catch up to the rest of the group and I feel very luck/fortunate to have read your post as I race by many others.
As I have a couple cats and a couple dogs, I instantly connected with your analogy. It also proves that both manners of organization can be effective depending on what you want to achieve. For the record, I seem to network better with the dogs.
Excuse me, I have to go walk the dogs while the cats watch in disgust.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying desperately to catch up to the rest of the group and I feel very luck/fortunate to have read your post as I race by many others.<br />
As I have a couple cats and a couple dogs, I instantly connected with your analogy. It also proves that both manners of organization can be effective depending on what you want to achieve. For the record, I seem to network better with the dogs.<br />
Excuse me, I have to go walk the dogs while the cats watch in disgust.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networks of Dead People by Jenny Connected?</title>
		<link>http://lisahistory.edublogs.org/2008/09/25/networks-of-dead-people/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Connected?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] She has a life-time of connections behind her and now has a large number of &#8216;dead connections&#8217; to quote Lisa Lane. [...]

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